[Virtualacorn-list] vrpcinuse supplements

[Brian Carroll]

In article <c4f5fab251.Steve at btinternet.com>,
   <stephen.hull at btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <51b2e8aff1briancarroll at f2s.com> Brian Carroll
>           <briancarroll at f2s.com> wrote:

> >In article <4a67e3b251.Steve at btinternet.com>,
> >   <stephen.hull at btinternet.com> wrote:

> >> Anyone please know how to actually print out the
> >> vrpcinuse/pdf? I can't print it out using Uniprint with PDF
> >> v3.02 on RISC OS without the page layout all going weird.
> >
> >> I can't print using Adobe or Foxit from VRPC as nether
> >> these programs print the file as intended either.
> >
> >> There must be some magic way of tweaking the printer dialog
> >> to get the PDF to print as intended from windows.
> >
> >> I am using a HP PSC 1400 series printer but cannot get the
> >> page format correct even in preview using vista.
> >
> >I have just printed out the 3 Supplements from the web site
> >given above.  The files were downloaded on A RiscPC using
> >NetSurf v2.6 and unzipped to get the 3 PDFs.  Then using
> >Uniprint v3.20 in its /launch/, not printing, mode the PDFs
> >were passed to my networked PC with WindowsXP and printed in
> >using Adobe Reader X (ie, 10). The default print dialogue
> >settings were OK. I now have 6 perfectly printed A5 page
> >pairs which can be folded as 6 duplex pages in the right
> >sequence to add to the 'Archive'- printed booklet.

> That's exactly what I want to achieve.

> >You should be able to follow this route with Vista and
> >VirtualRpc.  There is no need to use !PDF; Adobe Reader has
> >an extremely flexible print dialogue which is much better
> >than anything I have come across in RISC OS.

> I have printed the three supplements out ok using the adobe
> reader and they did print as intended showing the respected
> pages in sequence even though they only contain a couple of
> pages they were still in sequence by page number when printed.

> The 42 page vrpcinuse/pdf however is 42 pages long or 80 pages
> in the booklet format which doesn't print out in the same way
> as the above three supplements.

> Not managed to find a way to print out from the Adobe reader
> in the intended format yet, still trying.

My mistake, sorry.  I missed that you were referring to the
original booklet PDF, not the supplements.  It might have been
better to change the title of this thread. I bought the booklet
from 'Archive' to avoid the likely printing problems that you
have experienced.

It is possible to print 2-A5s to an A4 sheet (like the
supplements) from Adobe Reader X but you have to realise that
the page numbers on the printed pages (1 - 80 plus 2 blanks plus
2 unnumbered) are /entirely separate/ from the pages in the file
(1 - 42) and irrelevant for the printing process: ignore them.

In the Adobe printer dialogue tick 'page handling -> choose
paper source....'.   Select all pages and then print the 42
pages as pairs.  Unfortunately, real page 1 = front/back covers
and real page 2 onwards should have started with the manual's
page 1 on the left so that if you fold the sheets in half the
page numbers are on the outer side of the page. 

This is the consequence of preparing the whole document in a
wordprocessor from which an appropriate form of direct printing
could have been selected, but once the pages have been put into
PDF form their imposition can not be further manipulated except
as units equal to the actual paper size being used.

As far as Adobe Reader is concerned, it is best to output single
print pages to the PDF and then do /all/ the page manipulation
in the Adobe dialogue.  I have successfully printed duplex A5
manuals from a stream of A4 pages but it is tricky.


Brian.

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Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK  briancarroll at f2s dot com
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