From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 22:28:40 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:28:40 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
Message-ID: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>

Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris



From gav at dentrassis.com  Thu Jun 28 22:56:19 2018
From: gav at dentrassis.com (Gavin Crawford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>

I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't shut down properly.
It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt.
On your install CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
Gavin.


Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> Date: 28/06/2018  22:28  (GMT+00:00) To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk Cc: Chris Newman <cvjazz at waitrose.com> Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem 
Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message? An error
occurred? during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris

-- 
This mailing list is for discussion and mutual support of VirtualAcorn products.

Hosted by RISCOSitory/Soft Rock Software
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From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:01:05 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
<j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
> > The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
> > failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
> > battery was not in. Duh!!!.

> Been there, done that.

> > Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
> > occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

> I've seen that one many times before.

> > I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
> > painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
> > on the Hard Disc.

> > Should I

> > a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
> > unlock key still apply?).

> > b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> > Any thoughts?

> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
> whichever processor you're using.

> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
> certainly not reinstallation.

Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
think you?

-- 
Chris



From pnyoung at ormail.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 06:39:03 2018
From: pnyoung at ormail.co.uk (Peter Young)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

On 28 Jun 2018  Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list 
<virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
> <j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
>> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
>>> failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
>>> battery was not in. Duh!!!.

>> Been there, done that.

>>> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
>>> occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

>> I've seen that one many times before.

>>> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
>>> painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
>>> on the Hard Disc.

>>> Should I

>>> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
>>> unlock key still apply?).

>>> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

>>> Any thoughts?

>> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
>> whichever processor you're using.

>> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
>> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
>> certainly not reinstallation.

> Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
> A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
> Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
> think you?

I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing 
happens.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Pt) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung at ormail.co.uk



From vatory at abbeypress.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:38:48 2018
From: vatory at abbeypress.co.uk (Jim Nagel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:38:48 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Message-ID: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>

Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:

> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
> happens.

I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think 
that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Must say, tho, that I was surprised to discover the copy of CMOS in 
Choices, because in Configure the "CMOS > Save" menu gives no clue 
about *where* it gets saved.  Obvious with hindsight, of course, but 
at first an annoying frazzle.

-- 
Jim Nagel                            www.archivemag.co.uk





From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:28:36 2018
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
	<cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
Message-ID: <fda8e98e-64a9-770d-313f-2a7b181abcde@druck.org.uk>

On 29/06/18 10:38, Jim Nagel via Virtualacorn-list wrote:
> Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:
> 
>> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
>> happens.
> 
> I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think
> that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Two different things!

cmos.ram is a file in Windows used by the emulator software.

The file in Choices is a RISC OS file within the emulated environment.

---druck
-- 
Email: druck at druck.org.uk
Phone: +44-(0)7974 108301




From mik.towse at xemik.com  Fri Jun 29 14:04:07 2018
From: mik.towse at xemik.com (Mik Towse)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570FC37DBD%mik.towse@xemik.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net> Gavin
Crawford via Virtualacorn-list  wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
This is undoubtedly the problem, but the reset recreates a default setup. If,
like me, you make extensive changes to those defaults, you should make a copy
of the cmos.ram file once you're happy with the new settings.

So if (when?) cmos.ram gets corrupted again, you won't have to make all those
changes again.

I have 'cmos-Copy.ram' in the same Folder as the 'real' cmos.ram and have to
copy it back 4 or 5 times a year. We have many powercuts here and Windows has
a habit of rebooting without warning occasionally.

-- 
Mik Towse * mik.towse at xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/
My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk

xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net

Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Sat Jun 30 16:25:09 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <5710543d34cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Hi Jolly Chums,

Found that utility on the install CD & ran it. Doesn't need the password key.
All is now restored. Many thanks to all. I'll do a better job of backups now
(honest).

It took a while to get A Round Tuiit as I have been taking advantage of the
hot weather & doing some repairs to our ancient conservatory wood work. Dig
out a bit, fill a bit, paint a bit. Then there's the ages you have to wait
for things to set & dry. What fun. I had to replace some ancient hinges. The
originals were packed out with pieces cut from a Wills Woodbine fag packet
(anyone remember them). Chiselit, Bodgit & Leggit had obviously cut the holes
too big. Modern hinges are slightly bigger than the originals & the screw
holes don't line up. More filling & sanding. Hey ho!

-- 
Chris



From j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 22:55:09 2018
From: j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk (John McCartney)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>

In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due
> to a power failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the
> mains out, forgetting the battery was not in. Duh!!!.

Been there, done that.

> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error
> message  An error occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot'
> not found.

I've seen that one many times before.

> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop.
> Everything is painfully slow & the pointer stutters
> dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard Disc.

> Should I

> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will
> my original unlock key still apply?).

> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> Any thoughts?

The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in
the model of whichever processor you're using.

Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever
backup you have. There shouldn't be a need for any more
drastic measures than that - certainly not reinstallation.

John

-- 
John McCartney
j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:04:08 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570f711781cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Ta ever so. Most helpful.

-- 
Chris



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 22:28:40 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:28:40 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
Message-ID: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>

Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris



From gav at dentrassis.com  Thu Jun 28 22:56:19 2018
From: gav at dentrassis.com (Gavin Crawford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>

I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't shut down properly.
It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt.
On your install CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
Gavin.


Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> Date: 28/06/2018  22:28  (GMT+00:00) To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk Cc: Chris Newman <cvjazz at waitrose.com> Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem 
Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message? An error
occurred? during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris

-- 
This mailing list is for discussion and mutual support of VirtualAcorn products.

Hosted by RISCOSitory/Soft Rock Software
http://www.riscository.com/mailing-lists/

From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:01:05 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
<j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
> > The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
> > failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
> > battery was not in. Duh!!!.

> Been there, done that.

> > Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
> > occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

> I've seen that one many times before.

> > I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
> > painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
> > on the Hard Disc.

> > Should I

> > a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
> > unlock key still apply?).

> > b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> > Any thoughts?

> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
> whichever processor you're using.

> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
> certainly not reinstallation.

Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
think you?

-- 
Chris



From pnyoung at ormail.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 06:39:03 2018
From: pnyoung at ormail.co.uk (Peter Young)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

On 28 Jun 2018  Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list 
<virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
> <j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
>> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
>>> failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
>>> battery was not in. Duh!!!.

>> Been there, done that.

>>> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
>>> occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

>> I've seen that one many times before.

>>> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
>>> painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
>>> on the Hard Disc.

>>> Should I

>>> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
>>> unlock key still apply?).

>>> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

>>> Any thoughts?

>> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
>> whichever processor you're using.

>> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
>> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
>> certainly not reinstallation.

> Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
> A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
> Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
> think you?

I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing 
happens.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Pt) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung at ormail.co.uk



From vatory at abbeypress.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:38:48 2018
From: vatory at abbeypress.co.uk (Jim Nagel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:38:48 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Message-ID: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>

Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:

> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
> happens.

I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think 
that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Must say, tho, that I was surprised to discover the copy of CMOS in 
Choices, because in Configure the "CMOS > Save" menu gives no clue 
about *where* it gets saved.  Obvious with hindsight, of course, but 
at first an annoying frazzle.

-- 
Jim Nagel                            www.archivemag.co.uk





From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:28:36 2018
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
	<cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
Message-ID: <fda8e98e-64a9-770d-313f-2a7b181abcde@druck.org.uk>

On 29/06/18 10:38, Jim Nagel via Virtualacorn-list wrote:
> Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:
> 
>> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
>> happens.
> 
> I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think
> that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Two different things!

cmos.ram is a file in Windows used by the emulator software.

The file in Choices is a RISC OS file within the emulated environment.

---druck
-- 
Email: druck at druck.org.uk
Phone: +44-(0)7974 108301




From mik.towse at xemik.com  Fri Jun 29 14:04:07 2018
From: mik.towse at xemik.com (Mik Towse)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570FC37DBD%mik.towse@xemik.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net> Gavin
Crawford via Virtualacorn-list  wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
This is undoubtedly the problem, but the reset recreates a default setup. If,
like me, you make extensive changes to those defaults, you should make a copy
of the cmos.ram file once you're happy with the new settings.

So if (when?) cmos.ram gets corrupted again, you won't have to make all those
changes again.

I have 'cmos-Copy.ram' in the same Folder as the 'real' cmos.ram and have to
copy it back 4 or 5 times a year. We have many powercuts here and Windows has
a habit of rebooting without warning occasionally.

-- 
Mik Towse * mik.towse at xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/
My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk

xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net

Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Sat Jun 30 16:25:09 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <5710543d34cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Hi Jolly Chums,

Found that utility on the install CD & ran it. Doesn't need the password key.
All is now restored. Many thanks to all. I'll do a better job of backups now
(honest).

It took a while to get A Round Tuiit as I have been taking advantage of the
hot weather & doing some repairs to our ancient conservatory wood work. Dig
out a bit, fill a bit, paint a bit. Then there's the ages you have to wait
for things to set & dry. What fun. I had to replace some ancient hinges. The
originals were packed out with pieces cut from a Wills Woodbine fag packet
(anyone remember them). Chiselit, Bodgit & Leggit had obviously cut the holes
too big. Modern hinges are slightly bigger than the originals & the screw
holes don't line up. More filling & sanding. Hey ho!

-- 
Chris



From j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 22:55:09 2018
From: j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk (John McCartney)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>

In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due
> to a power failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the
> mains out, forgetting the battery was not in. Duh!!!.

Been there, done that.

> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error
> message  An error occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot'
> not found.

I've seen that one many times before.

> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop.
> Everything is painfully slow & the pointer stutters
> dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard Disc.

> Should I

> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will
> my original unlock key still apply?).

> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> Any thoughts?

The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in
the model of whichever processor you're using.

Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever
backup you have. There shouldn't be a need for any more
drastic measures than that - certainly not reinstallation.

John

-- 
John McCartney
j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:04:08 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570f711781cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Ta ever so. Most helpful.

-- 
Chris



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 22:28:40 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:28:40 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
Message-ID: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>

Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris



From gav at dentrassis.com  Thu Jun 28 22:56:19 2018
From: gav at dentrassis.com (Gavin Crawford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>

I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't shut down properly.
It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt.
On your install CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
Gavin.


Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> Date: 28/06/2018  22:28  (GMT+00:00) To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk Cc: Chris Newman <cvjazz at waitrose.com> Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem 
Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message? An error
occurred? during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris

-- 
This mailing list is for discussion and mutual support of VirtualAcorn products.

Hosted by RISCOSitory/Soft Rock Software
http://www.riscository.com/mailing-lists/

From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:01:05 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
<j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
> > The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
> > failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
> > battery was not in. Duh!!!.

> Been there, done that.

> > Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
> > occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

> I've seen that one many times before.

> > I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
> > painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
> > on the Hard Disc.

> > Should I

> > a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
> > unlock key still apply?).

> > b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> > Any thoughts?

> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
> whichever processor you're using.

> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
> certainly not reinstallation.

Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
think you?

-- 
Chris



From pnyoung at ormail.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 06:39:03 2018
From: pnyoung at ormail.co.uk (Peter Young)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

On 28 Jun 2018  Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list 
<virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
> <j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
>> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
>>> failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
>>> battery was not in. Duh!!!.

>> Been there, done that.

>>> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
>>> occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

>> I've seen that one many times before.

>>> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
>>> painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
>>> on the Hard Disc.

>>> Should I

>>> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
>>> unlock key still apply?).

>>> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

>>> Any thoughts?

>> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
>> whichever processor you're using.

>> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
>> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
>> certainly not reinstallation.

> Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
> A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
> Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
> think you?

I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing 
happens.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Pt) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung at ormail.co.uk



From vatory at abbeypress.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:38:48 2018
From: vatory at abbeypress.co.uk (Jim Nagel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:38:48 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Message-ID: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>

Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:

> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
> happens.

I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think 
that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Must say, tho, that I was surprised to discover the copy of CMOS in 
Choices, because in Configure the "CMOS > Save" menu gives no clue 
about *where* it gets saved.  Obvious with hindsight, of course, but 
at first an annoying frazzle.

-- 
Jim Nagel                            www.archivemag.co.uk





From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:28:36 2018
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
	<cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
Message-ID: <fda8e98e-64a9-770d-313f-2a7b181abcde@druck.org.uk>

On 29/06/18 10:38, Jim Nagel via Virtualacorn-list wrote:
> Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:
> 
>> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
>> happens.
> 
> I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think
> that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Two different things!

cmos.ram is a file in Windows used by the emulator software.

The file in Choices is a RISC OS file within the emulated environment.

---druck
-- 
Email: druck at druck.org.uk
Phone: +44-(0)7974 108301




From mik.towse at xemik.com  Fri Jun 29 14:04:07 2018
From: mik.towse at xemik.com (Mik Towse)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570FC37DBD%mik.towse@xemik.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net> Gavin
Crawford via Virtualacorn-list  wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
This is undoubtedly the problem, but the reset recreates a default setup. If,
like me, you make extensive changes to those defaults, you should make a copy
of the cmos.ram file once you're happy with the new settings.

So if (when?) cmos.ram gets corrupted again, you won't have to make all those
changes again.

I have 'cmos-Copy.ram' in the same Folder as the 'real' cmos.ram and have to
copy it back 4 or 5 times a year. We have many powercuts here and Windows has
a habit of rebooting without warning occasionally.

-- 
Mik Towse * mik.towse at xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/
My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk

xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net

Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Sat Jun 30 16:25:09 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <5710543d34cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Hi Jolly Chums,

Found that utility on the install CD & ran it. Doesn't need the password key.
All is now restored. Many thanks to all. I'll do a better job of backups now
(honest).

It took a while to get A Round Tuiit as I have been taking advantage of the
hot weather & doing some repairs to our ancient conservatory wood work. Dig
out a bit, fill a bit, paint a bit. Then there's the ages you have to wait
for things to set & dry. What fun. I had to replace some ancient hinges. The
originals were packed out with pieces cut from a Wills Woodbine fag packet
(anyone remember them). Chiselit, Bodgit & Leggit had obviously cut the holes
too big. Modern hinges are slightly bigger than the originals & the screw
holes don't line up. More filling & sanding. Hey ho!

-- 
Chris



From j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 22:55:09 2018
From: j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk (John McCartney)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>

In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due
> to a power failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the
> mains out, forgetting the battery was not in. Duh!!!.

Been there, done that.

> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error
> message  An error occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot'
> not found.

I've seen that one many times before.

> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop.
> Everything is painfully slow & the pointer stutters
> dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard Disc.

> Should I

> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will
> my original unlock key still apply?).

> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> Any thoughts?

The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in
the model of whichever processor you're using.

Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever
backup you have. There shouldn't be a need for any more
drastic measures than that - certainly not reinstallation.

John

-- 
John McCartney
j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:04:08 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570f711781cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Ta ever so. Most helpful.

-- 
Chris



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 22:28:40 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:28:40 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
Message-ID: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>

Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris



From gav at dentrassis.com  Thu Jun 28 22:56:19 2018
From: gav at dentrassis.com (Gavin Crawford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>

I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't shut down properly.
It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt.
On your install CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
Gavin.


Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> Date: 28/06/2018  22:28  (GMT+00:00) To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk Cc: Chris Newman <cvjazz at waitrose.com> Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem 
Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message? An error
occurred? during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris

-- 
This mailing list is for discussion and mutual support of VirtualAcorn products.

Hosted by RISCOSitory/Soft Rock Software
http://www.riscository.com/mailing-lists/

From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:01:05 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
<j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
> > The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
> > failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
> > battery was not in. Duh!!!.

> Been there, done that.

> > Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
> > occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

> I've seen that one many times before.

> > I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
> > painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
> > on the Hard Disc.

> > Should I

> > a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
> > unlock key still apply?).

> > b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> > Any thoughts?

> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
> whichever processor you're using.

> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
> certainly not reinstallation.

Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
think you?

-- 
Chris



From pnyoung at ormail.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 06:39:03 2018
From: pnyoung at ormail.co.uk (Peter Young)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

On 28 Jun 2018  Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list 
<virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
> <j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
>> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
>>> failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
>>> battery was not in. Duh!!!.

>> Been there, done that.

>>> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
>>> occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

>> I've seen that one many times before.

>>> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
>>> painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
>>> on the Hard Disc.

>>> Should I

>>> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
>>> unlock key still apply?).

>>> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

>>> Any thoughts?

>> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
>> whichever processor you're using.

>> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
>> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
>> certainly not reinstallation.

> Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
> A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
> Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
> think you?

I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing 
happens.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Pt) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung at ormail.co.uk



From vatory at abbeypress.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:38:48 2018
From: vatory at abbeypress.co.uk (Jim Nagel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:38:48 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Message-ID: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>

Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:

> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
> happens.

I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think 
that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Must say, tho, that I was surprised to discover the copy of CMOS in 
Choices, because in Configure the "CMOS > Save" menu gives no clue 
about *where* it gets saved.  Obvious with hindsight, of course, but 
at first an annoying frazzle.

-- 
Jim Nagel                            www.archivemag.co.uk





From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:28:36 2018
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
	<cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
Message-ID: <fda8e98e-64a9-770d-313f-2a7b181abcde@druck.org.uk>

On 29/06/18 10:38, Jim Nagel via Virtualacorn-list wrote:
> Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:
> 
>> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
>> happens.
> 
> I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think
> that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Two different things!

cmos.ram is a file in Windows used by the emulator software.

The file in Choices is a RISC OS file within the emulated environment.

---druck
-- 
Email: druck at druck.org.uk
Phone: +44-(0)7974 108301




From mik.towse at xemik.com  Fri Jun 29 14:04:07 2018
From: mik.towse at xemik.com (Mik Towse)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570FC37DBD%mik.towse@xemik.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net> Gavin
Crawford via Virtualacorn-list  wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
This is undoubtedly the problem, but the reset recreates a default setup. If,
like me, you make extensive changes to those defaults, you should make a copy
of the cmos.ram file once you're happy with the new settings.

So if (when?) cmos.ram gets corrupted again, you won't have to make all those
changes again.

I have 'cmos-Copy.ram' in the same Folder as the 'real' cmos.ram and have to
copy it back 4 or 5 times a year. We have many powercuts here and Windows has
a habit of rebooting without warning occasionally.

-- 
Mik Towse * mik.towse at xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/
My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk

xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net

Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Sat Jun 30 16:25:09 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <5710543d34cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Hi Jolly Chums,

Found that utility on the install CD & ran it. Doesn't need the password key.
All is now restored. Many thanks to all. I'll do a better job of backups now
(honest).

It took a while to get A Round Tuiit as I have been taking advantage of the
hot weather & doing some repairs to our ancient conservatory wood work. Dig
out a bit, fill a bit, paint a bit. Then there's the ages you have to wait
for things to set & dry. What fun. I had to replace some ancient hinges. The
originals were packed out with pieces cut from a Wills Woodbine fag packet
(anyone remember them). Chiselit, Bodgit & Leggit had obviously cut the holes
too big. Modern hinges are slightly bigger than the originals & the screw
holes don't line up. More filling & sanding. Hey ho!

-- 
Chris



From j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 22:55:09 2018
From: j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk (John McCartney)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>

In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due
> to a power failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the
> mains out, forgetting the battery was not in. Duh!!!.

Been there, done that.

> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error
> message  An error occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot'
> not found.

I've seen that one many times before.

> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop.
> Everything is painfully slow & the pointer stutters
> dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard Disc.

> Should I

> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will
> my original unlock key still apply?).

> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> Any thoughts?

The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in
the model of whichever processor you're using.

Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever
backup you have. There shouldn't be a need for any more
drastic measures than that - certainly not reinstallation.

John

-- 
John McCartney
j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:04:08 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570f711781cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Ta ever so. Most helpful.

-- 
Chris



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 22:28:40 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:28:40 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
Message-ID: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>

Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris



From gav at dentrassis.com  Thu Jun 28 22:56:19 2018
From: gav at dentrassis.com (Gavin Crawford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>

I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't shut down properly.
It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt.
On your install CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
Gavin.


Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> Date: 28/06/2018  22:28  (GMT+00:00) To: virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk Cc: Chris Newman <cvjazz at waitrose.com> Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem 
Hello folks,

The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power failure
i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the battery was not
in. Duh!!!.
Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message? An error
occurred? during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.
I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is painfully
slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard
Disc. 
Should I 
a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original unlock
key still apply?).
b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Chris

-- 
This mailing list is for discussion and mutual support of VirtualAcorn products.

Hosted by RISCOSitory/Soft Rock Software
http://www.riscository.com/mailing-lists/

From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:01:05 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
<j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
> > The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
> > failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
> > battery was not in. Duh!!!.

> Been there, done that.

> > Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
> > occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

> I've seen that one many times before.

> > I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
> > painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
> > on the Hard Disc.

> > Should I

> > a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
> > unlock key still apply?).

> > b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> > Any thoughts?

> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
> whichever processor you're using.

> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
> certainly not reinstallation.

Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
think you?

-- 
Chris



From pnyoung at ormail.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 06:39:03 2018
From: pnyoung at ormail.co.uk (Peter Young)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

On 28 Jun 2018  Chris Newman via Virtualacorn-list 
<virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <570f7044d3j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk>, John McCartney
> <j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman via
>> Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due to a power
>>> failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the mains out, forgetting the
>>> battery was not in. Duh!!!.

>> Been there, done that.

>>> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error message  An error
>>> occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot' not found.

>> I've seen that one many times before.

>>> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop. Everything is
>>> painfully slow & the pointer stutters dreadfully. However !Boot is there
>>> on the Hard Disc.

>>> Should I

>>> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will my original
>>> unlock key still apply?).

>>> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

>>> Any thoughts?

>> The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in the model of
>> whichever processor you're using.

>> Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever backup you have.
>> There shouldn't be a need for any more drastic measures than that -
>> certainly not reinstallation.

> Thanks, John. Sounds comforting. I'll give it a whirl tomorrow (or when I get
> A Round Tuitt) whichever comes first.
> Now where did I put that back-up. Would the cmos in the original CD suffice
> think you?

I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing 
happens.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Pt) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung at ormail.co.uk



From vatory at abbeypress.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:38:48 2018
From: vatory at abbeypress.co.uk (Jim Nagel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:38:48 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Message-ID: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>

Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:

> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
> happens.

I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think 
that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Must say, tho, that I was surprised to discover the copy of CMOS in 
Choices, because in Configure the "CMOS > Save" menu gives no clue 
about *where* it gets saved.  Obvious with hindsight, of course, but 
at first an annoying frazzle.

-- 
Jim Nagel                            www.archivemag.co.uk





From druck at druck.org.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:28:36 2018
From: druck at druck.org.uk (David J. Ruck)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>
	<570f70d0fbcvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<91be9a0f57.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
	<cbb1b00f57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>
Message-ID: <fda8e98e-64a9-770d-313f-2a7b181abcde@druck.org.uk>

On 29/06/18 10:38, Jim Nagel via Virtualacorn-list wrote:
> Peter Young via Virtualacorn-list  wrote on 29 Jun:
> 
>> I always keep a copy of the current cmos.ram for when this sort of thing
>> happens.
> 
> I think a copy gets automatically saved in Choices.  At least I think
> that's true in Ro 5 here; dunno about Virtual Ro 4 or 6.

Two different things!

cmos.ram is a file in Windows used by the emulator software.

The file in Choices is a RISC OS file within the emulated environment.

---druck
-- 
Email: druck at druck.org.uk
Phone: +44-(0)7974 108301




From mik.towse at xemik.com  Fri Jun 29 14:04:07 2018
From: mik.towse at xemik.com (Mik Towse)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:04:07 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <570FC37DBD%mik.towse@xemik.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net> Gavin
Crawford via Virtualacorn-list  wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
This is undoubtedly the problem, but the reset recreates a default setup. If,
like me, you make extensive changes to those defaults, you should make a copy
of the cmos.ram file once you're happy with the new settings.

So if (when?) cmos.ram gets corrupted again, you won't have to make all those
changes again.

I have 'cmos-Copy.ram' in the same Folder as the 'real' cmos.ram and have to
copy it back 4 or 5 times a year. We have many powercuts here and Windows has
a habit of rebooting without warning occasionally.

-- 
Mik Towse * mik.towse at xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/
My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk

xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net

Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Sat Jun 30 16:25:09 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
	<20180628215623.C36B421D7A@outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>
Message-ID: <5710543d34cvjazz@waitrose.com>

In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Hi Jolly Chums,

Found that utility on the install CD & ran it. Doesn't need the password key.
All is now restored. Many thanks to all. I'll do a better job of backups now
(honest).

It took a while to get A Round Tuiit as I have been taking advantage of the
hot weather & doing some repairs to our ancient conservatory wood work. Dig
out a bit, fill a bit, paint a bit. Then there's the ages you have to wait
for things to set & dry. What fun. I had to replace some ancient hinges. The
originals were packed out with pieces cut from a Wills Woodbine fag packet
(anyone remember them). Chiselit, Bodgit & Leggit had obviously cut the holes
too big. Modern hinges are slightly bigger than the originals & the screw
holes don't line up. More filling & sanding. Hey ho!

-- 
Chris



From j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 22:55:09 2018
From: j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk (John McCartney)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
References: <570f6dd94acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <570f7044d3j.mccartney@blueyonder.co.uk>

In article <570f6dd94acvjazz at waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> The VA on my netbook has ceased to function correctly due
> to a power failure i.e. Billy Muggins here pulled the
> mains out, forgetting the battery was not in. Duh!!!.

Been there, done that.

> Windows 10 recovered but VA won't boot. I get the error
> message  An error occurred  during Boot. File '&.!Boot'
> not found.

I've seen that one many times before.

> I can use the green page Boot menu & exit to desktop.
> Everything is painfully slow & the pointer stutters
> dreadfully. However !Boot is there on the Hard Disc.

> Should I

> a) Start from scratch & re-install the whole thing (Will
> my original unlock key still apply?).

> b) Drag over a !Boot from the original disc.

> Any thoughts?

The solution is almost certain to be a corrupt cmos.ram in
the model of whichever processor you're using.

Just replace it with a copy of the original from whatever
backup you have. There shouldn't be a need for any more
drastic measures than that - certainly not reinstallation.

John

-- 
John McCartney
j.mccartney at blueyonder.co.uk



From cvjazz at waitrose.com  Thu Jun 28 23:04:08 2018
From: cvjazz at waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Virtualacorn-list] Boot problem
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In article
<20180628215623.C36B421D7A at outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net>,
   Gavin Crawford via Virtualacorn-list <virtualacorn-list at riscository.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've had the same thing happen on a number of occasions when my pc hasn't
> shut down properly. It's the cmos ram file that is corrupt. On your install
> CD there should be a utility to reset the cmos ram. That should fix things.
> Gavin.

Ta ever so. Most helpful.

-- 
Chris